I can't really cite references for these numbers. This board is not an official outlet for SpaceX information.Press J to jump to the feed. Still, both the rocket and the capsule have been in mass production for decades, and costs drop dramatically when you have that sort of history. It is the most reliable spacecraft we have and deserves to be kept in honor.It's not the end of the Soyuz era. But as a space junky, I don't have it in me to belittle her. How does Dragon V2 really compare against Soyuz price-wise? With full reusability, that could go to $2 million per seat, some day.As far as I know SpaceX makes $133M for each CRS launch, not $83M. The spacecraft launches atop a Falcon 9 … It seems like adding the Dragon capsule to the mission profile should cost a lot more than an extra $10M-$14M.I can understand the Dragon capsule not costing a lot more if it's fully re-usable (which it should be), but I wasn't confident that SpaceX was quoting prices with re-usability assumptions built-in.The price per seat on Soyuz also includes all the training to fly it, which has to be done in Russia.If we get hard numbers on this, can we add it to the Wiki?New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be castWelcome to r/SpaceX, the premier SpaceX discussion community and the largest fan-run board on the American aerospace company SpaceX. Because right now Dragon is not reused, but supposedly reusable.Well if the price-per-seat includes the cost of the launch vehicle, I don't see how you can charge $70M-$84M for a launch (for a full crew compliment) if you're not only launching the F9R, but the Dragon capsule as well. She is and always will be old faithful. Conditions have improved in Russia, wages have gone up, and so have costs. That comes to $140M-$175M for Dragon V2 vs. $225M for Soyuz (assuming a full crew). Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts The F9R alone is $62M. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts They know they are the only ride at the moment and are taking advantage of the situation.What follows are some pretty wild guesses based on bits and pieces I've read over the last 2 years. Presumably, if the launch vehicle is included in the cost assessment, the pricing ratio is even more favorable.I don't know how much the Falcon costs as part of these Dragon V2 missions. The Dragon 2 is a much larger capsule capable of transporting up to 7 … NASA pays SpaceX $140ish million and SpaceX puts seven NASA people in orbit.The price per seat that NASA pays is way way higher than what it costs the Russians to provide said seat. The Russian space program was so desperate for cash at the time, that he had a great deal of bargaining power, and they were forced to give him basically a break even price.But remember that in 2000 the economy of the FSU was in free fall. To be fair Soyuz is an operational, mature vehicle and Dragon v2 is a prototype with the bare pressure vessel still in sight. Please be kind and don't down vote me to oblivion.When I talked with Dennis Tito, years ago, I believe he told me that the $20 million he was paying for his ride to the ISS covered the full cost of the flight, including the booster, training for all 3 cosmonauts, including himself, the Soyuz capsule, fuel, mission control, everything. She's done us all space lovers great service over the years. The $23M price estimate for a Soyuz seat seams quite reasonable. Perhaps $100M is a reasonable estimate?
As a second data point, Musk said in an interview that when he first went to Russia they agreed to sell him 2 surplus Proton rockets for $20 million, but they backed out of that deal when he returned.I'm going out on quite a limb here, but I believe the break-even cost of a Falcon 9 launch, including mission control, fuel, fairing, and other labor, seems to be in the neighborhood of $43 million.
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